7th February
2007
Reformulate as book discussion / pot luck where everyone just brings the book that they’re reading or just read that is interesting. Personally I’m liking this idea more and more, because we could share books more easily and wouldn’t have to all buy a copy of the book at once. This also keeps people from having to read books they’re not interested in.
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Jaime wrote:
I’ve been reading about (surprise!) Army girlfriends, finances, wives, and widows, but also about the history of women organizing in this country. I also have been checking out the killer (suffocate you by overrunning your lungs) African Army ants. I love to read the Wired blog “Bodyhack”: http://blog.wired.com/biotech/ I heard papers at a conference this last weekend on the following topics: women producing (and not producing) porn, women viewed as fast and loose if they work at call centers in India because it’s a night job, how American media used SARS to exercise some latent racism–making China look backward dirty and stupid. But the most interesting paper was about how men publish more proportionately than women in academia and WHY: women turn inwards when they’re criticized and change while men defend their shit and push on with proposals and applications until they find someone who accepts them. another interesting tidbit on that: men collaborate more, which makes it easier to author more papers. whodda thunk?
So, I think this was a vote for option 2, though prob votes from Georgia should carry less weight as a rule. What are you guys reading? And if anyone wants to get off this list thing, you should speak up rather than cursing us under your breath whenever there’s a message.
Brett wrote:
Very nice!
About men publishing and collaborating more, granted this is hindsight, but it does seem to make sense. My brain remembers that back in the day men were the hunters and politicians, and women were the gatherers and caretakers for tribes. Using this as a basis of comparison for current situations it follows that men write papers and don’t give up in the face of criticism (hunt) and collaborate to make their ideas known (politic). I don’t dare draw any conclusions about why women aren’t’ as successful at publishing for fear of at least 11 slaps across the face.
Actually, I couldn’t think of a corollary for women and publishing. I am sure there is one, but I will leave that you one of you to email us about.
That’s all I got. I would love to hear what other people are reading/thinking these days even if it is school work.
Peace out.
Chris wrote:
My current reads:
http://www.michaelpollan.com/omnivore.php
The Omnivore’s Dilemma by Michael Pollen.
This is the same guy who wrote the Botany of Desire, which I know a bunch of us read a while ago but I’m not sure if it was actually a bookclub book. Anyways, really fascinating, scathing description of our modern agriculture industry. If you’ve ever been curious about exactly where your food comes from (it’s all so hidden and convoluted these days) that’s what he tries to find out in the book. Usually stuff like this can get a little depressing, and you don’t want to read it, but I think he’s such a good writer that he keeps using my curiosity peaked so I can’t put it down. If I didn’t have kids I’d have read it in 2 days.
http://www.kwanumzen.com/misc/CompassOfZen.html
The Compass of Zen (by some Korean Zen master).
I found out about this from the Zen center. For some reason I always need to have a zen book that I’m reading. It’s good but thick. I love zen books. They all start out saying “Reading a book won’t help, forget all that you know and just sit!” And then after that there are 300+ pages explaining what Zen is.
The Blind Side: Evolution of the GamE
Good book on football…. oh wait, I was going to read this book but Trevor hasn’t given it to me yet.
The reason you like Zen books is the reason I hate Zen books. To me, the Zen way of life is to just be and be compassionately. I don’t need no stinking book to tell me how to do it, much less a book that states it in the first couple of pages and then digresses into a long winded, boring diatribe about Zen. This is probably why I am not very Zen. Alas.
Zen books make me itch, too, Brett. I think it’s because it’s all a cluster-fing tautology. The answer is that there is no answer. Things that bring you happiness and connection to other people are the things that make you suffer and so you’re too attached. For me, when I ask, “What do I do,” “Nothing” is not a satisfactory answer. Which means I’m too attached, of course. And round and round.
Okay, and RE men publishing more than women. See the following article about how we praise kids too much for being smart when we should be praising their hard work, which sets them up to work harder, be persistent, and handle criticism much more than kids who are told they’re smart and spend their/our whole lives trying to not get outted as maybe not-quite-so smart. Within the article are some good thoughts about persistence and handling criticism and failure.
http://www.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=The+Power+%28and+Peril%29+of+Praising+Your+Kids+–+New+York+Magazine&expire=&urlID=21157633&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnymag.com%2Fnews%2Ffeatures%2F27840%2F&partnerID=73272
Also at the conference I went to, there was a paper about women bloggers (diary-type blogs, not political blogs). The author was talking about the support networks these women were able to form online. Someone asked the question I was thinking about blogs are gated economically but also socially. I asked if she thought that blogs were serving as a psychic release valve that was pacifying people into thinking they have a voice. This is opposed to pre-internet when one or more of these women might have gotten pissed off enough to organize rather than letting off that steam in ones and zeros.
Regardless, I’ve been thinking about linking as a gated democratic act. Of related interest, here’s a cool graphic of the web of blog linking (27 million blogs…)
http://nymag.com/news/media/15972/
And a short analysis: “Professional bloggers are, at best, symbiotic parasites.”
http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2007/02/parasitology_of.html
That article on praising children was awesome! very very interesting. The kids actually become risk-averse. not good.
“The only difference between the control group and the test group were two lessons, a total of 50 minutes spent teaching not math but a single idea: that the brain is a muscle. Giving it a harder workout makes you smarter. That alone improved their math scores.”